While acting as an ambassador for the 2012 London Olympics, Kate Middleton has contradicted some of the criticism which has befallen her in recent months. Some instances appear to be genuine steps forward for the Duchess, while others seem too convenient or blown out of proportion by the press.
Criticism: The £49,000 Necklace
Although her outfits have cost about £100,000 annually, Kate has been deemed “thrifty” by the press for wearing many of her clothes more than once (1). With that, it was no surprise that the media zeroed in on the unusually expensive £49,000 white, yellow and rose gold Cartier rings necklace she wore to the opening of the Road to 2012 exhibit at the National Portrait Gallery. It is not unusual for a high-ranking Royal to embellish herself with pricey jewelry, but due to her reputation, the extravagant piece jeopardized Kate’s frugal image.
Possible Redemption: The £35 Dress
With her outfit recycling habits, it appears Kate is conscious that she needs to appear economically sensitive – at least in between her splurges on bespoke Alexander McQueen and Emilia Wickstead get-ups. For quite some time, I have suspected that she recycles outfits to make up for her frequent fashion indulgences (and leisurely lifestyle, as if to convey, “Sure, I don’t work as much as I could, but I don’t spend as much as I could either.”). And last week, I felt her £35 Hobbs dress served the same purpose. In my opinion, it was probably not a coincidence that she selected such an inexpensive dress – possibly the least expensive one she’s worn since becoming engaged – right after her extravagant jewelry took center stage and chipped away at her “thrifty” image. Whatever the case, I think it is great whenever she opts for affordable fashion and re-wears her pieces. Of course, her practices do not make the media’s incessant worship over the latter and claims that Kate “thrifty” any less than absurd.
Criticism: The honeymoon phase is over
Throughout the past several months, William and Kate seemed increasingly distant, giving the impression that their “honeymoon phase” had ended. Most noticeably, he appeared to ignore or look annoyed by her during many of their public appearances (as discussed in Royally Snubbed Part I). Additionally, Kate was caught seemingly flirting with Prince Harry as she and William ignored each other during the Diamond Jubilee celebrations. Needless to say, the behavior did not inspire confidence in the royal couple’s happiness together. Soon after, a report stated the pair hadn’t had sex in months (2). Another claimed William’s late night partying in London without Kate revealed he regretted being chained to her for so many years, and hence, missing the chance to have relationships -and naughty fun – with other women (3). Whether or not those stories were true, the rigorously peddled fairy tale love story was challenged from multiple angles. When the couple attended Wimbledon together last month, the apparent trouble in paradise was noted yet again, as the royal couple gave the impression they were disinterested in each other’s company.
Possible Redemption: William and Kate hug at the Olympics
When Team GB won the gold medal in track cycling this week, William and Kate cheered with the crowd and shared a celebratory hug. As photos of the ecstatic couple in a mutual-looking embrace spread, the brief PDA swiftly became the subject of headlines all over the web. However, in my opinion, the hug has been subtly twisted and exaggerated by several sources to seem more romantic and affectionate than it actually was. Also, photos can be misleading. View a video of the hug to keep in mind here (thanks to Rose for the video link).
For instance, Radar Online posted this:
Prince William isn’t winning any gold medals at the Olympics but he did win a huge hug from his beautiful wife Kate Middleton and RadarOnline.com has the photos of their affectionate embrace…
The public display of affection was a rare glimpse into the love the newlyweds have for each other, and they both had huge smiles as they celebrated the gold medal win,” (4).
A “huge hug”? It looked rather brief to me. An “affectionate embrace”? A “rare glimpse into the love the newlyweds have for each other”? William grabbed onto the side of Kate, who was mid-cheer with her arms in the air and did not even turn toward and acknowledge him. Clearly excited, she just kept cheering! Of course, she did put her arms around him in return, but it would have been extremely awkward if she’d kept her arms straight up in the air through it all. -My point is, it looked more like a reflex than the reciprocation of a loving gesture. They were obviously having a great time and William gave Kate a friendly, enthusiastic hug in celebration of the win – that is all. It was fine as it was. The suggestion that it was a touching and romantic demonstration of their love was an unnecessary stretch of the obvious.
STV posted:
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge were so overcome with joy as they watched the Scotsman lead the men’s spring cycling team to a gold medal, that they hugged and kissed each other in front of the world’s media, who snapped furiously at the rare sight.
Normally the Royals maintain a stiff upper lip in public, showing little emotion. But Kate and Wills have become known for their fresh, youthful attitude, injecting a new lease of life into the monarchy,” (5).
Obviously, William and Kate did not kiss each other. In reality, the pair never even faced one other in the moment. I don’t know whether this mistake was honest, but it seems awfully convenient that the error reinforces the media’s constant (and often unsupported) speculation that they are madly in love. Also, I cannot imagine that an inaccurate account of one of their rare PDAs would make it to print if the pair were mistakenly portrayed as less affectionate than they actually were.
In the second paragraph, STV should have ended it after the first sentence. In my opinion, William and Kate are not exceptions to the inexpressive tradition: It was just headline news that they hugged because their show of affection in public is so extremely rare! Even publications that champion them acknowledged the infrequency of their PDAs.
On a final note, it seems it is Harry and Kate, not William and Kate, who are showing the world their chemistry and affection. I am not at all suggesting their could be a forbidden romance between them. However, based on photos from the Olympics, it appears Kate is still uncomfortably very fond of Harry.
Criticism: The prediction that Kate and her outfits would steal the show at the 2012 London Olympics
Kate is the center of attention at nearly every event she attends, and the attention is added to whenever she debuts a flashy new fashion ensemble. While she re-wears clothes from time to time, in the past she has typically had high fashion garments custom-made for special events. She clearly likes to buy new clothes, dress up, look her best, and be noticed and praised for what she wears, so it seemed logical that she would strut around in a variety of showy new couture pieces during the Olympics. It would have been unfortunate and disrespectful to run such a distraction though, as the true stars of the games are the athletes.
Possible Redemption: A (mostly) low-key wardrobe
With only one custom piece so far, Kate has been keeping a surprisingly low fashion profile since her Olympic duties began. First, she has “recycled” a couple of pieces, including the blue Stella McCartney dress (July 19 and August 2) and navy Smythe blazer (One year ago in Canada, July 30 & 31 and August 2). Second, she has sported casual polo tees, jackets, and athletic shoes in patriotic Team GB colors multiple times. Primarily, her clothes have been blue and white with the only loud, busy exception being the bright red Zara blazer and polka dot top she wore on day seven. -Even that was an improvement since whenever she wears red, it usually makes up her entire outfit. Now if only she could pry herself away from those hideously unflattering skinny jeans… For a look at everything Kate has worn to the Olympics, visit What Kate Wore.
Criticism: The prediction that the Middleton family would have VIP seats at Olympic events.
In recent months, Michael, Carole, Pippa and James Middleton have relied on their royal connection to acquire preferential access to special events. Namely, they each sat in the royal box at Wimbledon, all cruised down the Themes in the Diamond Jubilee river pageant, and Michael and Carole joined the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh in the royal box and carriage procession at Royal Ascot. As the Middletons are members of the general public, their inclusion in these events was received as unfitting, awkward, and intrusive by some of their peers. With the family’s persistent pace toward a royal-like lifestyle, it seemed inevitable that the trend would continue during the Olympics. After scoring special seating at Wimbledon and Royal Ascot, why wouldn’t they sit alongside William and Kate in the VIP sections at the Games?
By inviting the Middletons into their social circle, treating them like peers, and granting them special privileges, the Royals seemed to be granting the reputed social climbers a free pass into high society. But there are greater problems with their inclusion than the fostering of their apparent social ambitions. First, William married Kate - not her family. The status and peerage title Kate acquired through marriage does not entitle her parents and siblings – who will never have royal duties – to comparable social raises or any perks that might accompany them. Second, the more the Middletons associate with the Royals, the more potentially advantageous their royal connection becomes for their business ventures. Any time the family is seen out with the Royals, the press reports it, publishes their photos, and often references their sources of income. It all promotes them – the Middleton brand - and hence, promotes their party supply business, Pippa’s upcoming book, and James’ cake business. It is a possible abuse of their royal affiliation for the Middletons to purposefully share in the Royals’ publicity.
To avoid strengthening ties with a family that is not popular with the public and any potential exploitation, the Royals should only invite the Middleton family to events which specifically center on William or Kate. -And that does not include the Olympics. As the Middletons are members of the general public whose presence is not required at the games, it is only fitting that they procure their own means of access if they wish to be there.
Possible Redemption: Where oh where have the Middletons gone?
The Middleton family has yet to be spotted in VIP seating at the London Olympic Games – or in attendance at all! The reason behind their surprising absence remains a mystery.
There is a chance the Middletons were invited to the Olympics but turned down the opportunity. However, I highly suspect they would have happily attended if they had been. Based on their recent history, they appear to embrace their fame, relish special access to grand, royal-related events, and be excited to publicly support Kate in her new royal role.
The more likely and attractive possibility is that the Royals denied the Middleton family VIP tickets to the games. If that is the case, it would suggest the Royals have finally gotten the message that overall, the public does not wish to embrace the Middletons as part of the extended Royal Family. I certainly hope that is the true reason. It would be about time!
Sources
(1) Jones, Liz. “£105,000, the TRUE bill for Kate’s clothes: But she’s worth every penny, says LIZ JONES.” Daily Mail. 6/26/2012.
(2) Star Magazine via Cele|bitchy: Kaiser. “Duchess Kate allegedly stopped having sex with William months ago.” Cele|bitchy. 7/11/2012.
(3) Star Magazine via Cele|bitchy: Kaiser. “Star: Prince William ‘regrets missing out on so much because he was tied to Kate.’” Cele|bitchy. 7/13/2012.
(4) Tereszcuk, Alexis. “Right Royal PDA! Kate Middleton Gives Prince William An Olympic Sized Hug.” Radar Online. 8/2/2012.
(5) “Kiss me Kate! Duchess Catherine and Prince William’s Olympic joy.” STV. 8/3/2012.
this is one choice essay, Miss. OMG, I love it.
That video of Hug-gate was perfect. The still photos the press latched onto trying to make it out as some sort of romantic gesture………well – the video tells all. It was nothing at all. NOTHING. That’s how I’d hug my brother under similar circumstances.
I still remember how underwhelmed I was about the balcony wedding kisses. Geez, how pathetic were they for newly weds???? I mean, really!
My assessment is that these two are “friends with benefits” and that’s about it. Willy made his bed, now he can lie in it.
I thought the same about the hug video, Elaine (and the balcony kisses!). -It definitely could have been a sibling hug! It really did nothing to change my opinion of their relationship because it made them look like nothing more than best buddies. “Benefits” status: unknown! ;-)
THAT was a hug? That looked like accidental physical contact! Grab, let go. Can’t say I was impressed by it as a romantic epic moment! Or even a minimal one. Right on, Miss 24!
Another great article, Miss 24. Well balanced and well researched. You put into words many of my thoughts over the past couple of weeks. So often Waity seems to be a big ball of contradictions. But the thing is, if she’s aware of the public’s tendency to criticize certain things about her (which she obviously is), why invite the criticism in the first place?
Thanks, Arlie :-) I usually doubt that the favorable contradictions occur at her own will. Does she wear some High Street pieces because she wants to or because she’s been told she has to? Has her wardrobe been low-key at the Olympics because she wanted it to be or because she was told it had to be? Has her family not been present because they had other plans/she didn’t want them there/they weren’t interested or because the senior Royals/grey men did not want to include them? I tend to lean toward the latter for each issue. -So when she is inviting criticism, I think she’s just living how she wants to and making her own unguided choices without care for the criticism. When the contradictions come in, I think it’s because she’s been urged to alter her behavior. -Just a stack of my suspicions!
Again, excellent analysis, Miss! You’ve obviously given this a lot more thought than I have. It seems, then, that she gets no guidance at all — at least with regards to the clothing choices. Then, days later when the RF has had a chance to see the criticism she’s inviting, they step in for damage control. Otherwise, why would she go out in public vacuum-packed in those hideous jeggings and in 5″ wedges four or five days in a row. I’m still baffled that the RF/PR people did not intervene when day after day she received mountains of criticism over those choices.
Arlie
I find it interesting when you say that KM appears to have no guidance in relation to her clothes. I think she is either too up herself to TAKE any guidance from anyone or there is something going on in the background to discredit her. I read a comment from someone on RD (before the BRF family link was removed) who thinks that the RF (or their advisors) are actually giving herself enough rope to hang herself with. If the RF were that against her joining (and were under duress from either PW or the Widdletons) then this scenario would make perfect sense.
Kate appearing unfazed by criticism.
I guess Kate doesn’t want to appear as somebody who is easily influenced by criticism. This applies to the whole RF. When somebody criticises them often they don’t even react. It is their way of appearing independent and un-influenced and un-fazed by trends or common “vulgar” opinions.
Ya see ya can’t bribe nor blackmail da Royal Famly. Aristos dun’t listan to da common manns sense. :-D
So when Kate makes a mistake or is criticised heavily she probably won’t react quickly but in fact she does probably go on to make that mistake for a while. And only after a while she makes changes – if she makes any at all. – Well, my thoughts on this.
The contrary argument would be that Kate doesn’t change cause she is a snob who is looking down on people.
Thanks for the video link of the (in)famous hug!! Jeez… the way the media talked about it, you would’ve thought we saw them conceive their first child!!!
Very surprised about the Middleton family not being seen at all (thought they’d at least have gotten regular tickets) – do you really think the RF has the ability to dictate VIP seating/tickets, or maybe it was just part of the IOC’s decision on who gets tickets (corporate sponsors, mostly)? I think there would’ve been a massive backlash if you had seen the Midd family with better seating than the athletes’ families!!!!
It may have been up to the sponsors or others, Currylove, but I strongly suspect the RF could have pulled some strings to get them VIP tickets to at least an event or two if they’d wanted to. I think if they had wanted them there, they would have been there, plain and simple. I don’t know the facts or details of it though. -And I agree with you about the ugly backlash!
DoLittle is not “beautiful”. If I can’t get past that, not much else in the pandering media is going to be taken seriously. I can’t get past that.
I have stopped hitting the DM and other sites. A surfeit of Waity is a surfeit of brain cells screeching in their death throes. I am numb and gorged with Waity pix and oleaginous, unctuous fawning. Hand me the antacids.
Everything she does is calculated and self-serving. IMO, there never will be “redemption” for such a lazy, narcissistic waste of space. Besides, I bet she thinks we’re stupid.
How long can we continue to show contempt for a cockroach? We know what happens to cockroaches- they inherit the earth while everything else succumbs to extinction. I’m starting to feel I’m wasting my time giving her anymore space in my head. It feels like I’m circling a giant, sucking black hole.
On the other hand, I await her downfall. Am hoping it’s spectacular.
Why is my comment awaiting moderation?
One word: “cockroach.” lol
Interesting. So if I said I’m going out for cocktails, I’ll get moderated?
Answer: Yes!
lol, bluhare :-) I can’t seem to get around my filter recognizing parts of words!
Maven, you are hilarious! I feel the same way. I’m sick to death of her and all the “oleaginous, unctuous fawning.” Great description! Yet I still can’t quite tear myself away because it’s all so entertaining, and like you, I’m awaiting her downfall. And meanwhile, the media continues to play us — both those who worship her and those like us who criticize.
I completely understand and agree with your points, Maven. The only reason I surf the Kate-praising sites is to do research for posts. It’s disturbing that even the comments are moderated/deleted in the attempts of some to manipulate the masses in favor of her image. It’s a losing battle – but it’s the disgusting intention that counts. It’s like whoever is motivating the attempted manipulations feels it isn’t an option to require her to earn the adoration she needs. God forbid she make an effort. Oh, no. Let the press jump through hoops and concoct one fantastical story after another. They’re running out of material to work with – the desperate straw-grasping is well into its second year.
There has been a lot of talk here about Kate’s narcissism. I definitely see the narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) symptoms there, especially when I re-explore the years she dated William. But those years also reveal strong symptoms of codependency. To my knowledge, those are not two disorders which coexist in a single individual. Actually, narcissists and codependents are sometimes thought of as the only pair of opposites that attract (the point being, they’re sort of like psychological opposites). My point is, I think the codependency part may have been complete BS (why would a person fake narcissism to get what she wants? -Codependency, however…) I’m not an expert, but I have a lot of experience and knowledge in this area, and I suspect that Kate is a narcissist… and then some. I can’t know for sure, but I am becoming increasingly convinced that she is a sociopath. They are social opportunists by definition. Half of sociopathy is narcissism, while the other half includes a lack of conscience. Based on my/our suspicions/assessments of her actions and relationship with William over the last decade: Sociopaths don’t really feel love, so that may help explain why she’d be able to find joy in a loveless marriage so long as it helps her achieve her personal goals. People tend to either love them or hate them. Those who “love” them are in a state of buying the facade while those who “hate” them see through it. The lovers often think the haters are crazy because they honestly cannot see how anyone could not be charmed and taken with the person. That seems to fit, doesn’t it? A lot of us have said something to the tone of, “Kate has sold her soul…” Well, maybe she doesn’t have one. -Not in a religious sense, but a soul the way many would define it. -Emotions, the ability to love, empathy, essence, etc. So many of us are constantly stating how her smile is a fake hyena grin and how she fails to seem genuine in anything she does. -How she dislikes charity, or anything that isn’t self-serving. Narcissists are self-serving, but they do feel love and they can be genuine. There is a lot more to it – it’s too much for me to get into here right now – but I think it’s an idea worth serious exploration. Most people have the misconception that sociopaths are all criminals, but in reality, the vast majority simply commit emotional “crimes.” -Sorry for the lengthy comment – I can’t help it! I’ll spare you the novel-sized story, but if anyone knows a sociopath, it’s me.
Again, so well said, Miss 24. Your analysis is dead on. I know, because I know one too — you’re not alone. As I mentioned in your previous post, it’s my sister. She demonstrates all the qualities you mention, and I see them in Waity too. In particular, I like how you said that so many people can’t see through narcissists because they’ve been charmed by them. They think we’re the crazy, jealous ones because we dare to criticize them. I can’t tell you how many times people have told me not to be jealous of my sister, just like the Kate-lovers go on about all us “jealous haters.” Jealousy is so far from what’s really going on here that it’s just sad. Sad and tragic for all the delusional people who fall for this kind of phony charm.
Please don’t be sorry for your lengthy comment. It’s so astute and dead-on accurate, and I’d like to hear more. Maybe a new post on this topic one day?
Miss E24, I loved your article, and especially your comment where you query whether KM is a narcissist or a sociopath. I read an article, not long ago, where a lot of business leaders are thought of as narcissists or sociopaths, as to get where they want they have to rough ride over others. They have to not have any empathy! Think about that statement for one minute. Does that not appear to apply to KM and her behaviour? On you tube- I think it was ‘waity the undeserving princess’ there was a comment by Lady Victoria Hervey, who said that KM would glare at anyone who came within a short distance of PW. Again, what does that say about PW,who has been friends with Lady Victoria for many years, that he allowed KM to get away with this kind of behaviour? Why has no one (in the RF ) come down on her ‘like a ton of bricks’ for how she behaves? I would not expect any one in her own family to pull her to one side as this is how her own family behave. As for the redemption following her ‘faux pas’ of wearing a necklace costing thousands of pounds to a gallery- it is playing to the media when she makes an error. I, for one, am not taken in by her acting. No matter if she becomes another Mother Theresa, and there is too much archived material about the ‘real’ KM, I will never become a ‘supporter’ of this woman.
Hi Miss 24. Again, a really interesting article – I am fascinated by people and how they ‘tick’. I have personal experience with narcissists – only just realised this for about a month or two (!). They are completely dependent on other people to reflect greatness upon them, and are like vampires. I would wonder whether her Mean-Girl antics and lack of work would make her more severe, if she was NPD. I find her sense of entitlement frightening!
I read your post about your sister and felt very connected and intrigued, Arlie. I can totally relate! So many people don’t even realize that these personality types exist. I can understand why someone who is unaware would think a woman criticizing the woman getting all the attention in the room is jealous (or something like that ;-) ). I sometimes wonder if I would be so blissfully ignorant if I hadn’t known some of the “charmers” I grew up with.
My close yet extended family has a lot of narcissism and sociopathy running through it – with a few spousal codependents thrown in. It wasn’t until four or five years ago that I had all the details worked out on everyone’s character, but looking back, I feel like I grew up in an evil three-ring circus in which I absolutely did not belong. I haven’t spoken to a lot of them in about two years – it was a big step, but after years of misery with no light at the end of the tunnel, I decided it wasn’t the tunnel for me. I couldn’t be happier with my choice and know I wouldn’t be able to understand people – good and bad – to the same depth without my experiences. From what I can tell, you can probably relate to that!
It’s great – and a relief – to connect with someone else who understands. I appreciate you sharing a piece of your story more than you know. Feeling alone can be the worst part! Thanks for sharing, Arlie. I would love to post on this topic if I could find a way to reach people who are not yet familiar with these psychological subjects. There is a post I’m working on which deals with articles released in 2007 that I think will touch on some of it. -I think it’s time to examine the past – especially for the many who only started following this royal story when the engagement was announced. It will deal a lot with the narcissism aspect, although I will probably not label it as such.
I would love to have some past examining. I only really started paying attention to Kate when they got engaged. While I have gone and read some things about their time together, I would really appreciate some history.
@Miss 24 Great post, please take a quick look at this (NPD definition from the Mayo Clinic website):
Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. Those with narcissistic personality disorder believe that they’re superior to others and have little regard for other people’s feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.
I mentioned (actually, I wrote a brief novel about it on this blog lol) that I suspect Kate is a very insecure person despite her constant grin. Based on the definition above, would it be possible that Kate might care about potential criticism but she was instructed to ignore all articles about her and her family? In that case, she is an oblivious (by choice) NPD (by nature) VIP ;)
Good analysis, Miss24.
Overall, I think she’s done fairly well these games. I see this week they aren’t around, as I guess William’s back at work and she’s out at Tesco shopping!
Thanks, bluhare :-) I agree, and she has done better than expected – mostly with regard to her outfit choices. Other than that, I guess she’s just been watching the events! I really was expecting her to pull out all the stops with her clothes though, and so far she hasn’t. It’s been a pleasant surprise – one I’m not totally convinced was her own idea/choice, but pleasant and respectful all the same.
Glad to see the new article!
It seems to me the reason that Kate has gotten so much criticism at the Daily Mail is because she just doesn’t look REAL.
Consider the numerous Olympic appearances. At every one she looked like three hours was spent on her hair, another two hours applying a layer of make-up and then another hour or so dressing her.
In other words she didn’t look like a young woman attending a sporting event, she looked like a mannequin being wheeled out for display, and then wheeled back into storage until the next viewing.
Even her reactions and expressions looked rehearsed and Stepford-like.
The hug just made me sad. William so obviously feels nothing for Kate he couldn’t even convincingly PRETEND he did! As someone on the Daily Mail board noted, the next day it was back to reality and William was once again photographed looking bored and disinterested in Kate’s company.
The PR machine obviously thought Kate making so many appearances at the Olympics would be good for her image. Unfortunately for Kate I think the opposite has happened. Despite aggressive editing on the comment boards, it was still plainly evident most of the comments were not only negative but harshly so.
I don’t look forward to Kate’s downfall, but I do agree it’s likely to happen.
More and more I get the impression that William is losing interest in keeping up appearances. One “hug” and then he’s right back to ignoring her?
I wonder how much longer he’s going to bother to make the effort.
Sadly for Kate, I don’t think it will be long.
I think we’re going to be seeing games like this for the next couple of years. Especially if any babies enter the picture…….
But here they are one year married and this is what is going on. It’s pretty sad, really………
Hi Lila :-) William is an affectionate guy – a browse through his history in pictures shows him being as touchy-feely as Harry with girls, celebrities, friends, etc. The only person he’s not physically affectionate with is Kate! -Aside from those he shouldn’t be so with, of course (The Queen, Camilla, and other non-peers). I don’t know the truth behind the hug, but my impression was that William tried to be affectionate, but it was painfully awkward to witness and not reciprocated by his wife. Whether or not he did it to try and improve the increasingly grim outlook on their marriage, I cannot say. But if that was authentic on his part, I’d say he was wasting his time. It was even more awkward than their first kiss on the Buckingham Palace balcony – Kate was clearly not expecting it, and their timing was misaligned. Even rehearsals couldn’t help them, obviously! I agree with you – there’s nothing romantic detected there.
Excellent again Ms 24. Spot on. Do you think KM is following the line of ‘treat him mean, keep him kean’ with her husband and it is he who is the co-dependent in the relationship?
Is William not affectionate?
I would like to refer to this polo game photo op. Remember that Kate hissed at William to make some more room for her and he did so with a sad and hurt expression on his face. I doubt that Kate would have dared to do that before marriage. But she does dare to do that kind of thing now.
This is just a suspicion but maybe William didn’t really understand Kate’s character and he thought that he would marry a doormat and she would remain a doormat post marriage. Well, he was wrong.
But Kate is wrong as well to show this kind of behaviour. She clearly wants to be recognised as 100%-Royal and that includes being photographed standing next to William. So she pushes this through without regard to other people’s feelings.
After I had seen the video of this incident I thought that Kate and William don’t really form a good team. These complex power structures and struggles within a relationship might have a negative impact on the affection. I wouldn’t want to hug a hubby who publicly hisses at me to make more room for him. I’d expect him to inform me about his ‘space requirements’ me in a nice way. ;-D
Despite both of them approaching their 30ies they married too young. Neither of them was ready for marriage.
The article was really fun to read, so thank You Miss 24.
I agree, all this hoo haa about Catherine is quite entertaining.
But the sex part was a bit over the top. I mean how can star mag. even say that.
Like they have cameras in their bedroom .
Silly silly silly.
P.S. I agree with Lila, Not looking forward to her downfall, It will be as dull as she is.
I totally agree about the no sex Star story being silly and unfounded, Natalia. ….Although…. Now that I think of it, it’s about as solid as speculation that Kate is “thrifty”… At least I could believe a story about them not having sex based on what I see! -A story about Kate being thrifty… not so much! William and Kate not having sex is a story for entertainment only, but then, so are most of the positive stories about the not-pregnant woman whose husband isn’t affectionate and ignores her in public while she seemingly flirts with his brother right in front of him. Hmmmm… (Sorry, I couldn’t resist!) ;-)
I am still stuck at the £49K necklace that barely looks it.
Kind of similar to RAF wives. Will be awhile before i think of anything else.
Given RF’s hands off approach until negative publicity impacts the family as a whole, i am in the same camp as you Miss 24 in that she never thinks or plans ahead nor does she think anything is badly received until someone at BP has a quiet word. Then you get a change of direction. just like the poke in the back!
DOY – Good to see you back! I agree about the necklace. If I were going to select a necklace of that price, I would pick one that looked as valuable as it actually was! (Although I read a rumor that it was a wedding gift somewhere… Does anyone know the truth on that?).
She seems completely oblivious to any criticism most of the time. I wonder if she is actually in the dark or if she truly doesn’t care. I tend to believe the latter. -Especially since the engagement interview when she discussed not really caring about public criticism over her perceived lack of work. At the time (if I remember correctly) she said something that suggested she takes it into consideration but doesn’t let it affect her as long as those close to her feel she’s on the right track. -Those close to her, in my mind, primarily meant William and Carole (the two major influences, in my opinion).
Miss 24 – good to be back. I recently re-watched the engagement interview to check on a few points….You know how Charles is forever haunted by ‘whatever love means’? Waity will be haunted by that interview. there are so many disingenous points therein plus the fact that she spelt it out for us. She doesn’t care what we think, so there. I firmly agree with you that the only people whose opinion she cares about is Carole and William.
Hello. my first post but had to join in. I didn’t think her “I don’t care what people think” comment was very convincing – I think she is thin skinned but surrounded by such arrogance it acts as a buffer.
If she genuinely doesn’t care what people think then that’s an even bigger problem as the monarchy relies on the good will of the people of the UK and into the Commonwealth to sustain its position. The monarchy only exists by the consent of Parliament and the people.
The Middletons surely can’t be so stupid, arrogant and self centred to refuse to believe that public opinion could “do” for Kate like it almost did for HM following Diana’s death? Err can they?
Hi TB2
I think that if it ever came to the public disliking KM to the extent that the Monarchy could be in jeopardy, you can bet your life that her skinny jeaned self would be kicked out of that family quicker than you could say wedges. and yes, I do believe that her frightful family are stupid and arrogant enough to think they can get away with ANYTHING. (They have if you think about it)
Re: necklace
http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/201207198705/kate-middleton-national-portrait-gallery/
Cartier won’t disclose any information, Hello magazine suggests the necklace may have been William’s birthday gift to Kate. I also read that it was a gift from Kate’s family. I agree with DOY- the necklace doesn’t look worth its price tag at all. Stella McCartney dress that Kate wore to the National Portrait gallery looks like any Topshop dress to me (I personally like the color though). I find it strange that an actress like Penelope Cruz gets “simple sophistication” and “casual chic” looks better than Kate Middleton. I understand that Kate has certain limitations now that she is officially representing the BRF but her designer/ non designer options are still limitless.
Phew! I was hoping you hadn’t left. Now babykaos needs to show her face.
I’ve missed you two. I want the PR account of The Hug!
@Bluhare – also Fedi
there are also lots of criticism of her tacky skinny jeans – didn’t see her make any changes
Actually, I don’t mind the jeggings/skinny jeans in the right setting (casual!), and with flat shoes and only occasionally. It’s those idiotic wedges with the skinny pants that make her look like a streetwalker. And I am sick of seeing the same jeggings every single day. Why not wear a casual skirt or pants? I have a few criticisms of Charlene’s style, but I love the way she wears both dressy and more casual pants with style and confidence. Take a lesson, Dollycurls! (Saw that moniker on DM and thought it was perfect!)
No, Not leaasons from Charlene please, that means more botox and trashy dresses. Btw, they are quite the same, never a job.
Arlie
The Princess Dollycurls moniker is catching on. Thank you soooo much OOTP for writing that comment that allowed the reply from Robin, London, UK. Funniest thing I have ever seen on the DM comment boards
Poor Princess Dollycurls, such a hard life. And HOW much makeup??
- Anon, London, UK, 8/8/2012 23:59
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2185602/Kate-Middleton-loses-golden-touch-Team-GBs-women-lose-crunch-hockey-semi-final.html#ixzz2322AuzBeArlie
Arlie and DebbieB,
At least my efforts achieved something. Giving DM a hint doesn’t seem to be one of them.
Arlie and DebbieB,
I found this on the DM, very funny I think.
The Duchess of Hambridge, hamming it up for the cameras as per usual. If she was made of chocolate, she’d have eaten herself by now.
- HellBells, London, 10/8/2012 14:18
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2186593/Duchess-Cambridge-Kate-Middleton-jumps-joy-Team-GB-beat-New-Zealand-hockey-bronze.html#ixzz23BCaMrB8
The Duchess of Hambridge- perfect moniker for such a poor actress!!!! what a fantastic comment.
@Ojo – if i may expand on my poke in the back theory about Waity as it applies to her jeans.
Despite many public/private appearances, She’s still getting it wrong as far as where she needs to stand or walk or talk etc meaning that William continually pokes her in the back to move her along. Somewhere, her brain isn’t computing and learning what needs to be done.
Now apply the same theory to all her jeans [that we have seen in public]. The darker blue/black jeans she’s sporting are not as nearly spray on as the bright blue/pink ones. Or possibly it’s the darkness of them which disguises their tightness. She’s won them before, with that matching blazer in Canada where she was praised. The difference of course was that she was so skeletal in Canada that they weren’t spray on and could pass for skinny jeans as opposed to the jeggings that they are.
If you think that her brain can only compute simple instructions, which have to be made very, very clear then as soon as someone mentions the inappropriateness of the bright blue/pink jeggings, voila! they are gone.
However, if the instructions don’t include the dark blue jeggings then those will stay. A normal person, when informed of inappropriateness of certain clothing choices, would take that into consideration for rest of their clothing choices, but not our Waity.
She needs to be guided repeatedly about every detail otherwise it doesn’t compute!!
She is a tacky person, and so can’t help herself. I still can’t get over that dress with the thigh high split. No matter how expensive her clothes are, she always looks cheap.
Miss 24,
As always you hit the mark dead center and until the rest of the world gets a clue, Miss 24 stay strong and keep up the great work and amazing courage you show by not allowing intimidation to enter the forum for truth.
What I found just astonishing about her and PW is the fact that if WK changes her behavior only as a reaction to criticism, then why is it DM and co. (the Midds) work so hard to suppress it. This tells me someone is catching wind of the criticism and passing on hints of what not to do next time, yet she is like a shampoo, lather, rinse, repeat. Throughout the Olympics, from the torch arriving at BP till now she is wearing those awful jeggings, (which I am convinced someone is just giving her bags of them because how many pairs can she have of those attrocious things and does she not care how much of herself is being exposed, doubtful), and those facial expressions just get worse each time she goes out. The worse part I think has to be the contradiction of happy marriage, and yet she flirts with her brother-in-law, (which is it sister, I think we know). All the while PW seems to not give a hoot about any of it, which opens the can of his contradictions, which are too numerous to mention. I have decided to quit commenting on the DM because they are not honest nor do they have integrity and the commenters are not much better (the sychophants, not the ones who still try to tell the truth). However, just to keep up on the new and improved daily disasters that is KM I will still look and feel the same shock at this woman’s cluelessness. I am simply going to wait until the day she trips up so bad that it will leave no other option but to get rid of her, because that is the only thing that is going to save the monarchy. As someone who grew up in a rural town in Indiana, I had heard of the Queen when I was like 8 yrs old, there is a reason for this, I am not alone and if it wants to survive, this plague cannot be allowed to permeate and propagate, there is a point of no return, lets hope it is not reached.
Great summary of Kate Middleton’s Olympics, Miss 24 :) DM may as well give her a gold medal for being the center of DM’s every article about British athletes.
I’m still not convinced that Kate is flirting with Harry, despite all those (published) photos. She waited for her status (ahem, I mean Prince William ) for 10 years, I doubt she would risk it by flirting with one person she shouldn’t flirt with. She laughs a lot around Harry but let’s face it- Harry seems a lot more spontaneous than William.
P.S. In DM’s newest article Kate waves at GB’s women hockey players (look at the smug expression on her face/raised left eyebrow): “Hello everyone, I’m up here. If I’m smiling it’s because you’re playing a very important game but DM is writing another article about ME. I win. Again. Toodaloo.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2185602/Kate-Middleton-loses-golden-touch-Team-GBs-women-lose-crunch-hockey-semi-final.html
I saw that DM photo earlier + my thoughts are the same.
There has been way too much focus on KM during these Olympics. She sure lapped it all up though.
Great summary article, Miss 24!
STGM,
I always love to read your posts. Also, when I mentioned WK flirting with Harry, what I see is woman who is trying to kkep each foot in two different lives, before she got married she was free to go to the clubs and when she an PW broke up, what did we see, WK floating like a butterfly and flirting happily, with his friends. As it is now, since he put a ring on it, it could be me but I see her pool of friends dwindled to almost no one minus Pipsqueak and fam, so when PW ignores her the options that were once available are not there anymore, so poor Harry has to be the middle man. He is more fun and carefree, and the most available option to try and make PW jealous but if his looks are anything to go by he doesn’t give a monkeys. Even a soulless Stepford wife needs affection once in awhile, and while I would never believe that she would risk it, her narcissism will eventually balloon up so big that she might actually think she can get away with it. Her efforts to emulate her late mother in law might just sow enough seeds that one of them might grow into the ”if she could do it then so can I” mentality. The RF might just be setting up a mine field and because she does not pay attention might find herself in tight spaces indeed and no one to help her because she has no friends.
Thanks OOTP, and thanks again (DebbieB too) for making me laugh on several occasions yesterday! Your “Kate is helping RF family’s popularity grow exponentially” comment on DM was PRICELESS, too bad other readers didn’t see through sheer satire of your prose :)
I’m questioning “Kate flirting with Harry” hypothesis because I am close to my brother in law. He’s extremely intelligent, funny and good looking BUT I would never (never have and never will) flirt with him. I love and respect my husband and just the thought of flirting with his brother makes me borderline nauseous. I’m not a prude; I have a healthy sense of humor but I also appreciate common decency and good manners.
Re: Kate and Harry
Harry mentioned he didn’t know Kate well during his pre-wedding interview. It seems strange that William has been seeing Kate on and off for 9-10 years and Harry didn’t get to know her but every interaction of the RF members with “outsiders” is on a completely different level anyway. If we just observe photos of Kate and Harry, how do we conclude that she’s definitely flirting with him? Bear in mind that when they’re out in public, dozens of cameras take every second of their interaction. William seems cold and unaffectionate with Kate which means she probably relies on Harry to relieve any stress and tension during their public outings. I imagined someone taking pictures of me laughing at my brother-in-law’s jokes and realized I would probably look exactly like Kate? (I’m their age btw). Add William looking irritated and correcting her behavior all the time to that picture and Harry is her only “beacon of hope”. I might be biased and you guys might be 100% right (Miss 24 and everyone else who commented on the same topic), time will tell. My opinion might change if/when I see videos of their interaction. Either way, I have very little respect for Kate Middleton but I still hope she has some decency and pride. Wishful thinking?
Hi STGM,
I have to admit that after, Lavinia stole my thunder and wrecked my plan, I was pretty much in the mindset of just giving up on my DM fanclub. However, I have decided to wait patiently and for the right story and strike again. Of course I will let my Enclave friends know of my dastardly deeds and share them gleefully. Q: As I read the comments on the new Edition, I have to say that you know what makes me feel really bad about joining in on the discussions with you guys here in Enclave 24??? A: Because I cannot come up with one argument in which to disagree and truly stand up for WK, she is beyond hope, for some one of her age and education, to be this mediocre I am speechless.
Hi OOTP
I must say that I am going to have to catch up with E24 comments BEFORE I open the mail online. When I saw your comment in the DM yesterday ,as the newly reincarnated rose coloured spectacles, I nearly spat my tea all over my laptop! I was laughing soooo much and I nearly copied and pasted it to this site. That’s the problem with being in a different time zone to you guys!!. I have been waiting for Robin, London, UK to reply (That man is a god in my eyes) but unfortunately he hasn’t taken the bait. Keep up the good work!
@Sic transit gloria mundi (STGM) I think Prince Harry is the “plaster/band-aid” in this relationship. He seems to be always caught in-between his brother and WK, as though to calm the storm that happens behind closed doors. Personally I don’t think WK will jeopardise her position as “Duchess” by being flirty openly with Harry.
Recalling Harry is the same person that called her a “limpet” and I doubt he will hurt his brother by reciprocating WK’s subtle flirts. The brothers have been through too much in their growing years, and to have this woman step in-between them, she will be thrown out on her ear, faster than entering into the BFR.
There seems to be a censorship in the papers. You can’t post a comment about the truth without it disappearing in minutes. Daily Mail is the biggest culprit at the moment. So much for free speech.
The Telegraph never even allows comments anymore (since negatives ones started appearing on a regular basis) on articles about KM or her family.
You don’t know how grateful I am for your site.
At first, when Kate and William announced their engagement, I thought I was the only one less than overjoyed about it. But with each new article I can’t help but skim the comments and come to the satisfying conclusion that no, I’m not the only one who is less than favorable of the Middleton clan. Your articles are always well researched and full of valid points that very few could deny wholeheartedly. It’s a pleasure to see your emal in my inbox. I always know I’m in for a treat.
Another great article miss 24 as usual.
I agree with you that she has done fairly well but my problem with this 30 years old with world class education woman is the so very low standard she maintains. She is doing fairly well because she has to do nothing other then just sit and watch the event , smile and clap. The only fair job she has done is watching events , I mean that is just so incredibly low for a woman in her position. If you try to look closer , you will see that this child woman have mannerism of a 10 years old girl for example her always so exaggerated facial expressions , hair flips , looking towards cameras when everybody else around her is looking entirely somewhere else and acting like a silly school girl around harry (i don’t think she actually flirts with her , imo it’s just her mannerism . ) . I mean why can’t she act like a 30 years old ? She have no decorum or elegance about her . She spends most of her time in her physical appearance and yet she never ever looks polished . What the hell is wrong with this woman ?
As far as that hug is concerned , I don’t think William was faking it . I think he was just really excited about the team GB win and he just grabbed the very next person to him in excitement and celebration like most guys do after a sports win and Kate happens to be that person . What I find disturbing about that hug is that Kate did not even care to look in his direction , not even a glance . The whole time her face was toward the cameras and not her husband . I don’t know about royalty but if someone turns towards me and hugs me I usually look in their direction . He was cute , it was nice seeing him letting go himself and enjoy the moment but boy she never forgets the cameras .
I have been super busy at work so I did not read most of the comments in the last post . I don’t know about anyone here but i am just so incredibly bored with her . There is absolutely nothing new about this girl , it’s still the same inappropriate clothes ,same stupid and childish mannerism , same repeated performance , same over the top expressions , same horrible make up , same camera seeking behavior , same lazy entitled attitude . There is just nothing new to appreciate or criticize . I don’t think we are ever going to see a different woman . She is just set in her ways . She is not even worth my insults .
@WTD – ditto at that last paragraph.
@WTD, your last paragraphs pretty much sums up my opinion too. Well said.
@WTD. My thoughts too.
I wouldn’t even consider your statements insults, they are objective observations. This is exactly why her PR team is more focused on damage control (just like Miss 24′s article above points out) than the positive Duchess of Cambridge image promotion. After all, how long can they praise her hair, make-up and outfits for?
I wouldn’t even consider your statements insults, they are objective observations :) This is exactly why her PR team is more focused on damage control (just like Miss 24′s article above points out) than the positive Duchess of Cambridge image promotion. After all, how long can they praise her hair, make-up and outfits for?
@waity to dolittle: I am looking up recognisable symptoms of ADHD in adults and some of the below describes WK:-
inability to sustain attention on tasks or activities
frequent shifts in conversation, not listening to others, not keeping one’s mind on conversations, and not following details or rules of activities in social situations
fidgeting, squirming when seated
often talking excessively
initiating conversations at inappropriate times
difficulties following instructions
fidgeting, especially with the hands and feet (she always seems to be reaching to touch her hair)
I stand corrected, I kept on thinking she has some sort of “mental” disorder or attention span. Note she cannot stay focused on something for that long, boredom creeps in very quickly.
Good lord, that sounds like me. Except I do follow instructions well. :)
Joining you all in the bored room.
I think that Kate Middleton is a cold woman. W e all know that she have no friends , the only people she associate’s with independent of William are her family . But has anyone seen her hugging or kissing or gently embracing any of her family members with whom she clearly is closest to ? Even that stiff Windsors give us so many adorable and loving photos which show their bond as a family but what about Kate. I have never seen her show any emotion towards any person or family members . How come she never ever seen hugging any one in her family . She just seem so cold and distant to me who is trying so hard to play the innocent bubbly friendly girl next door .
WTD – I was discussing this very theory last night with a friend. You see her same type of awkward hug/push away from William in Canada after the rowing race. RD had a brilliant gif of the moment.
I firmly believe that Kate being a cold fish doesn’t encourage that type of ‘warm’ public display in anyone resulting in William unconsiously responding to those ‘cold’ signals. We know he is a warm person who has no issues hugging, smiling with everyone else except Kate. On the other side, you don’t see Kate exhibit warm behaviour towards others including own dearest family. It doesn’t mean that she doesn’t love him/them, simply that she is a cold fish. We all know people like that. You simply can”t hug them spontanoeusly like he did in the sports video. They can be intimidating because they don’t give off welcoming signals. More often than not, you have to wait for their cues to before making any gestures that go into their personal space. These types of people will always give off ‘cold’ vibes especially to people that do not know them.
It’s possibly why she always comes across cold even when she is clearly trying to be warm and approachable.
And why her smiles and flirtations seem to be forced and put on because she is acting against her personality type and comfort zone.
In Prince Harry’s best man speech he says that PW didn’t have a romantic bone in his body, so when he heard him calling Kate “Babykins” on the phone he knew that it was serious. Something to that effect.
@waity to dolittle. Fast forward and PR’s will set up a Middletrash ‘hug in’ any time soon!
ha ha eve , i will not be surprised if they do. even her pr tricks are so obvious and oh so boring . i have actually found myself a new royal to concentrate , prince harry . i just recently started paying attention to him and he is such a joy to watch even though i don’t consider him hot. he reminds me of diana and always make me smile . so i have been spending more time on him then this 30 year old boring predictable woman child.
Love this site, which I only came to via a comment in the Daily Mail Online – so I have at least something to be thankful to that publication for.
I am certain I can explain the real reason for WK’s lack of PDAs for William. This woman has spent a decade – and probably years before she ever met HRH - creatively imagining the glories of joining royalty and one day being crowned queen.
She will have seen for herself the well-publicised follies of royal consorts before her – in particular people with pasts like Koo Stark and Sarah Ferguson – and she has thus ever acted in the way she believes royalty would find most acceptable - with what superficially appears to be discretion and restraint. She is a natural actress who, we are told by fawning press reports, excelled in dramatic productions at school. She has made a lifetime of studying how to look like a queen in waiting and that includes wearing that chronically demure wedding dress, and not kissing her husband in public.
I know someone who met her while on holiday at a secret, expensive and highly-exclusive location with HRH before the announcement of the engagement and told me she was utterly modest and charming. Most people would be charming in those circumstances! But I also know people who have experienced her in real life when the cameras are not pointing in her direction and have seen a completely different person; one who is self-obsessed and self-entitled.
The pretence of modesty is, like her false and superannuated accent, all part of this woman’s elaborate circumspection. I don’t blame her really; I would probably do the same thing myself if I had married into royalty. But having gained the fruition of ambition, her lack of determination to be anything but what ‘appears’ to be royal is astonishing. The substance is well and truly missing, and the vulgarity of what she truly is cannot help but rise to the surface. It’s there in the crass interview, laughter in memorial service, determination to have ‘accidental’ wardrobe malfunctions which try to reveal how hot she really thinks she is under the dowdy dresses, and in the disingenuous flirtation with her brother-in-law.
Welcome Pander. You may take the prize for best first comment ever!
Miss, I’m extremely interested in your insights regarding sociopaths. I know three women who seem like they fit the criteria without the criminal aspect as described in the traits of this behavior. Having never met or interacted with the Royal Barbie, I don’t have any personal experience with her, but some of the stuff she does really suggests that she might be in this category. Knowing your excellent research abilities, I’m positive that you will write an earth shattering review. Looking forward to reading it sometime when you have the energy to put into it. If you are concerned about legal issues regarding a public posting of your analogy, could you email me your private observations? I would never forward them or post them anywhere but would delete after reading. I’m very interested in this.
I honestly think that Kate could be beautiful but ruins her looks with her heavy eye makeup, ridiculous Disney Princess hair and lack of modern sophisticated clothes. The skeletal body she has been sporting doesn’t help her but rather seems to accentuate the lines in her face making her appear much older than her years. Also, I read somewhere, (I forget now where) that Kate is a true English rose, right down to her heavy black eyeliner. Is it common for English women to wear heavy black eyeliner? When I was in England, I didn’t notice it at all on British women. I wish she would lay off the eyeliner, get a more flattering modern haircut , gain about 15 pounds and wear more youthful sophisticated clothes. Perhaps if she stayed natural instead of trying to mold her face and body into what she thinks a princess should look like, I would have more respect for her. The bottom line is that Kate is insecure with herself and and even more insecure of her position. She is trying very hard to look the part of future Queen consort but as we know from watching her, you can’t buy class. If she stopped putting on this facade then I think she would fare much better in the public eye.
I agree with everything you posted Laura, but especially the last sentence about getting rid of the facade.
Good advice, but not possible, because for Kate Middleton the facade is all there is.
Kate Middleton does not have a personality, she has a persona. A carefully assembled collection of expressions and mannerisms she repeatedly pantomimes.
Did you ever notice no matter where she is, or who she’s talking to, she always looks and responds the same way? The performance never changes.
I simply don’t believe Kate has any life or identity of her own, I really wonder if she ever did. I get the impression that as an adult she lives as an extension of Williams life, and as a child she lived as an extension of Pippas life.
To advise Kate to “be herself” is good advice, but I don’t see her being able to comply. She has no self, only a persona which judging from the recent comments is wearing thin.
This will be an terrible problem for Kate, bacause the persona is simply all she has to offer.
Is it possible that she is just doing an excellent job of managing expectations? Given such a dismal performance in her first year and then some, as she becomes more comfortable in her role and grows up a bit (motherhood is a role that will hopefully dampen her self-obsession), I would think (erm, hope?) that she would apply herself and become more involved in her duties.
Given how sensational the DoLittles’ hug that was seen around the world was, I would think a progressive “come into her own” will be hailed as the second coming. Perhaps the optimist in me thinks that she actually does care about her role and will try to do better.
@Kattaroo
I’m not really sure what you mean by “managing expectations”. Could you be more specific? What expectations and who are they dictated by perhaps?
The last line of your post about Kate caring about her role and trying to do better, unfortunately, I don’t agree.
Kate impresses me as being very much like William. They both want the benefits of their position, but make a constant effort to dodge the responsibilities. William has been doing this his whole life, and Kate seems more than willing to follow suit.
They both want the life of Riley while doing as little as possible in return. Hence the constant accusations of being lazy and work-shy. At first only Kate was receiving this criticism. More and more I see William gettting it as well.
William and Kate are both 30 year old University graduates. They both need to step up and start taking adult responsibility. Continuing to try and pretend they’re ” too young “ to be full time Royals will only cause the criticism to get louder.
I hope they don’t have babies, how terrible to bring children into a loveless marriage.
Lila: Personality vs. persona. Very astute.
@Laura. I personally don’t think Kate could ever be beautiful. Her face too heavy and moving south, her skin not good and she has
Carole’s a mean mouth with large teeth. She is very much like her father who has aged badly
Off topic but worth a mention – apparently Uncle Gary in a red top this week, the article chronicling
his hookers and cocaine at Maison Bang Bang. Did anyone see this.
Tried to look it up and found this:
http://truthquake.com/2011/10/03/exclusive-kate-middleton-infertile-cocaine-ecstasy-living-separate-life-prince-william/
quite shocking, but of course one must take it with a grain of salt…
@starkreality. Interesting and some facts we already know to be true. Also tried to look the Uncle Gary article up but suspect it has been removed so hope my contact comes back with the newspaper so that I can at least key in details.
@starkreality
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was true, thanks for the link.
The signs have been there for some time that this “marriage” is a sham. With or without “shocking” details.
@Eve, thanks for the link. It confirms what I said to my colleague the day WK and PW got married, and I quote “I sense that this woman cannot have children, and will either battle to fall pregnant. What I see is a lot of pregnancies that might have been covered up either through miscarriages etc. I think she might have fallen pregnant before meeting PW”, my colleague responded and said that my remark borders on jealously, for which I told her that it does not, but borders upon discernment. I told her that they will spin stories that these two need to get to know each other and that there will be no rush for kids right now. When articles started appearing my colleague came to me and wanted to know if I am psychic lol.
Something strange going on with DM article re her watching the hockey. I love reading the comments, almost obsessively (!) so I will know. They say they have received 90+ comments, yet I am still reading the comments I read a while ago. I keep pressing “Show All” and “Latest 10″ but no new ones come up. This has been like this for hours now. I think they are holding back quite a few comments, and the most recent ones are all defending Kate. I didn’t believe those of you who say the DM manipulates the boards etc but now I can see it. Also on other articles the comments from people who met her (eg Bella’s recalling how rude Kate really is) vanished quickly. Something is up, manipulation of the masses.
@Buttonhole. I have had the same problems re DM and allegedly manipulating comments. This has become so well known that it is said that they have totally lost credibility and have become a joke. It was also said that Ma constantly ‘reports abuse’ to get rid of negative comments. Probably why they haven’t been seen at the Olympics as too busy red and green arrowing although rumour has it that they have been instructed to stay at home as are apparently even disliked by the fawners!
Well it is good to see that the DM is discriminating at least my comment did get published, I wonder why.
Kate looks absolutely beautiful today. The people who are sitting with her must be thrilled to be in her company, I would be. She seems to be progressing beautifully in her royal duties. A splendid example of what a Duchess should be, you in the UK must be very proud. For those who are still having issues with her, give her a chance, she is still a newbie.
- Wandering the World in Rose Colored Glasses, USA, 8/8/2012 19:26
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2185602/Kate-Middleton-loses-golden-touch-Team-GBs-women-lose-crunch-hockey-semi-final.html#ixzz234YyqbgK
And I am in fourth place on the red arrows, anyone care to help me get on the medals platform. ;-) (evil grin)
I’m confused OOTP…you like Kate? I pretty much can’t stand her and the silly little grin she always has on her face.
Starlite,
Good grief no I do not like WK, I tried to send in an OOTP version of WK colorific fashion and it never got published, so I spent more than a day testing the DM, if the comment is positive it gets seen, if not, then… funny thing is many negative comments do get accepted, but it was very strange, as soon I sent a couple of sychophantic sounding comments they showed up in seconds. DM is a disgrace, try it, send in a negative and then a positive, see which one gets air time. Also one of my post on WK watching the boat race helped another poster come up with Princess DollyCurls. Look at Miss 24s last posting about WK and her tattered toots’. You will understand read from around 140 on up.
Whew…thank you for clarifying. I feel much better now ; )
Sorry about that Starlite,
I am trying to sharpen my DM WK trolling, that was just one of the efforts that got published.
I’ve posted a number of negative comments about Dolittle, all have been accepted and published almost immediately… First time too! I all but gave up on the DM as they have never published any of my comments before. Bizarre.
OOTP – I love the name at the end. I loved the Dollycurls comment to your other post.
Love this article! This site is absolutely brilliant and I have garnered a lot of inspiration from it. I just published my latest Kate article, if you want to read it - http://marikounwritten.com/2012/08/09/why-kate-middleton-gets-a-free-pass-9/
I’ve read it, and enjoyed your article, Mariko. MMmm, Miss 24 has some stiff competition :)
I most definitely think the Midd family were told to keep a low-profile b/c Kate has definitely been receiving some negative press. Having the public see the Midds at the events would have inflamed the bad press even more.
I simply can’t stand Kate or her family. Carole is like Kris Jenner from the Kardashians. It’s recently come out the Kris brokered the sex tape of her own daughter. I think Carole is very much like this. She told Kate to put up with anything PW did (cheating, ignoring etc) so she could have the title.
Scheming, conniving snakes are what Carole and Kate are and PW is a weak bloke.
@lila I hope this doesn’t get lost in the fold.
I agree with you 100% that I don’t see her becoming any more active than she is now. She will continue to live her life of luxury with no regard to the plight and the suffering of others.
However, the public’s expectations (and esteem) are set so low that from wee on out every mediocre inclination and move she makes that even hints of being work will e hailed as the second coming of Diana which would a huge insult to Diana’s memory.
Miss 24s essay just goes to show that with every gaffe she makes it is that mug easier for her to turn it around and say hey look detractors I am the thrifty duchess again!! She has nowhere to go but up and it boggles my mind that Prople will lap it up.
She is an embarrassment to the royal family and yet if she stays around from here on out she can do the bare minimum and call it fulfilling her royal duties.
My optimism just wishes she he would care and actually seem like she was genuine about t.
@Kattaroo
Thank-you for the clarification and I couldn’t agree more. Especially the part about expectations of the public being so low.
This is endlessly demonstrated on the Daily Mail comment boards. Expectations are so low and excuses are so high, you would think Kate is a 3 year old child instead of a 30 year old woman!
Come on.
Interestingly though, lately the negative comments are far outweighing the positive, even with agressive editing on the part of the DM. I noticed on the last few stories the comments defending Kate came from the same people posting numerous times.
Kate fatigue setting in perhaps?
This is off topic…..but I can’t seem to find where the original discussion (if there was one! :) )
This is in regard to comments in an earlier (?) post where there was surpise of the smallier family presented on the the balcony after the Thames flotilla during the jubilee celebrations. I had previously found, and just recently remembered, discussions regarding the parentage of Prince Andrew (see 1/3 down the page) and Prince Edward.
Does Prince Charles believe his family is the only true/full royal heir of Her Majesty? Could the ’smaller’ family on the balcony and the one being proposed by Prince Charles be due to the knowledge within the royal family (ie. Charles!) regarding the two prince’s parentage? With both prince’s not being of full lineage, has Prince Charles decided to exclude them and their families from the immediate family when he becomes king? Since The Princess Royal had already decided for her childern that they would not be considered royal by not giving them a title upon birth, Princes Charles would not consider them part of the immedidate royal family. Thereby out of all Her Majesty’s children, this by defaut presents Prince Charles’s family as the only family that can be considered royal and thus the presentation of the smaller family on the balcony.
I know this might be a stretch but what is the chance that this theory is correct?
At this point, whether or not Andrew and Edward aren’t fully Mountbatten, it is impossible to remove them without impugning the Queen’s reputation. And DoE is too proud to admit otherwise. Further, the bloodline is via the Monarch who in this case happens to be female, so their claim to the throne still stands. Philip is merely a Princeling.
Pruning the RF was something that was talked about as early as 1997 with ‘The way ahead’ committee on which all the Queen’s children and the Queen/DoE sit. Perhaps Andrew and Edward thought that any changes would be after their death because to be fair to them, they were brought up royal with expectation to work as royal as indeed where Andrew’s girls. If Anne’s kids had been brought up royal, then the same level of friction would be happening with her as well. Edward seems to have seen the light and proceeded accordingly. Andrew did not.
That said, the rumours are only about Andrew’s parentage. Not Edward. Andrew is rumoured to be the 7th Earl of Carnarvon’s kid. We’ll never know for sure because Andrew favours The Queen Mother’s family in looks whilst Edward favours Queen Mary.
I know this is off message, but in my endeavor to trip up the DM, I have noticed something rather peculiar. If you look up Kate Middleton in the search, this story does not appear, it is a Femail, when you click on the link it is still there, they never did add my color chart interpretation. Now if you type in Duchess of Cambridge in the search the story shows up, along with all the other stories that appear when you type in Kate Middleton. The Mail has not heard the last of Peasant, although my new DM moniker will now be “Wandering the World with Rose Colored Glasses” (I will remain OOTP here on Enclave), I think the more sycophantic my comments the more likely I will unleash more Robins, who will no doubt be disgusted with my Rose Colored Glasses. Bwahahahahaha
Kaleidoscope Kate: She’s gracing the cover of America’s leading society magazine as the world’s best-dressed woman. Here, we chart the colours that made her a global icon
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2183868/Kate-Middleton-Here-chart-colours-Duchess-Cambridge-global-icon.html#ixzz236NpawEH
Let’s see if this gets approved. For all the braying about censorship in various quasi-tabloids here, three of my posts to this blog have been deleted. They were completely supportive of a critical view of Miss Waitress/Waity, but they’re gone. Could it be because I’m not part of the inner circle here, a recent addition to the discussion from the US? I hope not. Nevertheless, they are GONE. Can we say hypocrisy, boys and girls?
Cameron,
This is not that type of website, I know on the last commentary about Kate and her feet had so many comments that Miss 24 moved them to a seperate page so the page itself would load faster. I am an American too, I have never gotten any hint of censorship on Enclave, just the other idiots. Miss 24 will check on this for you, it is probably a tech glitch. You have great ideas on dear WK.
@Cameron
I replied to one of your comments on the other article (tattered tootsies) yesterday afternoon (British time). Have a look there.
A large percentage of the posters here live in the US. I live here, and I have not had a post be deleted, unless it was a mass deletion, which did happen once.
About the $77, 000 necklace, the palace said it came from her “private collection”. There is no way they would say that if it was a gift. They would proudly say so. They cannot afford people thinking that Kate blew their money on a necklace that expensive.
MeMeMe: I don’t think the exclusion of Andrew & Edward from the balcony has anything to do with parentage–in their royal & aristocratic circles, children born of the mother are accepted as long as the mother & father are lawfully married. It has been like that for a long time & prevents scandal & divorce among the aristos. The real reason for their exclusion, is that Charles wants to be top dog & has been constantly overshadowed by the p.r. shenanigans of Duke & Duchess of York and Edward & Sophie for a long time. Anne hasn’t done anything wrong, but was also excluded wrongly, imo. Alas, even after his parents are gone, Charles will constantly be upstaged by the DOC, because no matter what he does, the press is going to write about what the DOC is wearing. Too bad Charles didn’t provide a better parental example of how to treat women — maybe if he had, Wm. would have chosen someone other than a bar hopping gold digger.
It’s official-Kate Middleton makes Princess Anne fall asleep! (# 2)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2186098/London-2012-Olympics-Duchess-Cambridge-delights-Nicola-Adams-historic-win-takes-ringside-seat-boxing.html
@SGTM. It looks a bit like too if TL is saying shush to the manic laughing!!
“You did not just tell your future Queen Consort to be quiet”
http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/1854/08/1854_1344547018.jpg
Thats a bit harsh Lady Jane.
I respect your opinions, but Dont really think that DOC is a gold digger.
@Natalia. I can’t help but agree with Lady Jane’s comments. All the signs so far is that Kate (and family) are definitely in this marriage for all the wrong reasons, however time will tell.
@Natalia, I agree with Lady Jane’s assessment that KM is a gold digger. What else do you call a married woman who does not work and takes money from her husband and father in law to fund her posh lifestyle ? I am going to go one further and say that she also has a bit of fame whore in her. You really think she stalked him and hung around for ten years because she really loves him ? Nope. She loved his title, his future title and what that would mean for her. She loved his lifestyle, she loved the idea of people fawning over her , being on the cover of magazines, etc. Any self respecting woman would not have waited ten years, endure multiple breakups (all in the public eye) for a man if there was nothing to gain but his love.He dragged his feet as long as he could and she let him. If he was a regular Joe, she would have dumped him a long time ago.
I have a new theory about Kate and those jeans – it probably takes her three hours to get them on and off since they’re so tight so she has to wear them repeatedly otherwise she wouldn’t have enough time each day to do her hair. And lets face it, her hair and makeup is the be all and end all for her.
Loved the comment on the DM about athletes training for years and then the media reporting not on the athletes but on the ”woman who watched them”. Pathetic. I hope the UK never getsto host another Olympics during Kate’s lifetime.
Love that theory, Narelle! Dollycurls has been wearing the same jeans for days because she can’t get them off without three hours of work, so she just sleeps in them. Surely they need a wash by now? Shrink them up a bit so they’re skin tight again?
My theory: Waity wearing the same clothes for the entire Olympics means she’s about to go on a huge spending spree for new clothes. We will see dozens of new $3000 outfits for the next few months. That is, after their upcoming vacation, which is so needed after two weeks of difficult actress work — all those facial expressions! And hyena-grinning and posing and clapping and faking in the Olympic event stands and other events. Oh, and Waity’s feet need a vacation too, from 5″ idiot wedges further destroying her already mangled feet.
@Arlie. Love your posts – you have the most hilarious turn of phrase!
@ Narelle, I thought the same thing about the jeans. Between the time it took to get into those painted on jeans, the time it takes to do that hair of hers and the time it takes to lacquer on all that makeup – it must be a 5 hour ordeal. No wonder why she doesn’t work. She has no time !
maybe she have many pairs in same color because let’s face the girl got no imagination and she already know for buying one of the most boring dressed of her( the one she wore with 2000 pounds Alexander mcqueen belt ) in three different colors . i will not put this past her .
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2186360/Kate-Middleton-brother-law-Prince-Harry-Royal-outing-congratulate-Britains-athletes.html
MAJOR PR stuff going on here with quotes saying ‘how knowledgeable Kate was about their sport!! Does explain previous days absence tho – must have needed the time to be coached and then of course for the outing propped up by PH! @Arlie. Still wedges and spray ons – good theory about sleeping in them LOL!!!!
@ Eve, Ugh, the DM is sickening. Who cares that she is knowledgeable about sports ? Why don’t she get knowledgeable about all the people that are in need in her country and the world and learn about how she can help them. Those are the things she should be working on learning about. Oh but no, she’s great because she watched the olympics and retained some info about the sports the athlete’s played. WOW ! She’s so great !
Good morning all,
I saw this article published on DM, and thought to comment about it here.
People can say what they want to say about Kate being close to Prince Harry, it is the first time that I have seen photos of Prince Harry not looking happy at all – any person with a discerning eye can see that he would rather be somewhere else than seen posing with her.
The media is truly trying to advertise this woman as being the best thing that has happened for the BFR, pride comes before the fall.
Where is William if she is being seen posing with Harry?
The photos tell a different story, I see the defending has started already. I sense that the fawning comments must come from those working within the DM, I could be wrong.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2186360/Kate-Middleton-brother-law-Prince-Harry-Royal-outing-congratulate-Britains-athletes.html
LOL! A posting from the DM, obviously oblivious to the fact that they are actually drawing attention to Enclave 24! :
Libby and Dave Sampson – I think your leader on enclave24 will be calling you in soon, you probably need to top up your bile tanks and re-align your tactics with the rest of them …. they will be pretty upset at positive posts being green arrowed
- A normal human being, UK and USA, 10/8/2012 10:11
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@Stark reality
This ‘person’ also posted a reply to my DM comment but using my pseudonym from here! That me made laugh I can tell you. Some of the sycophants are obviously scanning this site. I myself, found this site through DM and RD, so it’s not surprising to see this ‘person’ doing this- How hilarious and how quaint. Can just imagine their blood pressure going sky high to see how their dear idol is thought of
KATE SLIPS ON BANANA SKIN go the headlines in today’s Corriere Della Sera of Italy refering to Kate’s hasty exit at the beginning of the Irish national anthem at the Olympics yesterday.
What banana skin? And what nanas do they take us for?
That was a very deliberate move so as not to offend the man who foots the bill for her wardrobe and whose favourite uncle was blown to smitherines by the IRA. A fact the Queen may have forgiven but I’m sure HE HAS NOT.
Kate CANNOT, MUST NOT and WILL NOT risk offending the sensibilities of either of the 2 potential kings of England.
That seeming slip was all about The Lion(England) The Witch(who could that be?;-) ) and THE WARDROBE. Which I also believe is one of Kate’s favourite shows!http://www.graziadaily.co.uk/fashion/archive/2012/06/16/kate-middleton-wears-zara-and-whistles-to-the-lion–the-witch-and-the-wardrobe-
And now the DM compares Mila Kunis, Kate Moss and Gwen Stefani to Kate. There is a claim that Kate did their make-up just like these beauties.
1. All of these women except Kate are professionals: actress, model, singer. Their make-up is professional and part of their profession. Kate is neither model nor actress nor singer but a member of the RF. So she should do a “royal make-up”.
2. All of these women know how to do their make-up. Kate uses too much eyeliner. Stefani has a heavy thick eyeliner on her upper lid – that’s this particular mad men’s 50ies (?) style. Kate simply circles her whole eye in bold thick black. Mila Kunis and Kate Moss paint black circles around their eyes too – but not this thick kind of eyeliner. Also their make-up isn’t too much as they were easy on blusher/rouge. Also Kate is very tanned unlike the other women.
Sorry but Kunis, Moss and Stefani look way better than Kate.
3. This comparison is ridiculous.
4. I doubt men like their women covered with heavy make-up. Last time I talked to a man about this he claimed that too much make-up was a turn-off. This do-men-like-makeup-poll was commissioned by a beauty retailer – surprise surprise.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2186438/Gentlemen-prefer-women-make–smokey-eyes-favourite-look.html
isn’t it amusing that they are always comparing her to celebrities. being a royal she should be different and even tabloids know that she have no substance so they always talk about her as a celebrity even british one. this alone is one of the many facts that shows how terribly she failed as a royal .
Everyone!!!! Just seen this one. Sonia knows Kate and Wills. Wish she could say more! Can someone please submit a comment to ask her for more- who is it? Kate? Wills? I can’t I am at work. And be quick- this one will be deleted, I tell you now.
“2 of the vilest people! the biggest cause of the down fall of British monarchy which perhaps wont last after the current queen whom I like very much… – Sonia, London, 10/8/2012 11:10 You don’t even know them so how can you say they are vile! – Janet, London, 10/8/2012 11:57 – Yes I Do! I am someone in the know, what else I would have against these people when I love the queen and the monarchy, why would I would say it otherwise ? I am someone who have suffered by the hands of one of these people consistently for a long enough period of time to know!! which have resulted in me on anti depressants, yep! what else you need to know ? or maybe you do but you don’t want to acknowledge it and would happily be part of the vile media campaign of constant manipulation, William the future king have a duty to its people! king belongs to its people, I hope William knows that and reads this….
- Sonia, London, 10/8/2012 12:27
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2186360/Kate-Middleton-brother-law-Prince-Harry-Royal-outing-congratulate-Britains-athletes.html#ixzz238vEFx00
And perhaps invite SOnia to come to Enclave24 to post her experiences as the Daily Mail most likely won’t allow her to post.
EDIT: I have made a comment inviting Sonia to come to this site and post her experiences, as well as encouraging this person a bit. Nobody should be so intimidated that they have to take anti-depressants, who can be such a bully? Surely not the lovely Kate…Keep a watch on the article to see if it appears, I hope it does and stays long enough for progress.
EDIT2: it is up…
Hi Buttonhole
OMG! That is one frightening comment. Tom, Southwest has asked for more details but I think you are right, the DM will not allow any follow up comments. To be honest, i am so surprised that they allowed this comment through or that KMs sycophants have not asked for it to be removed. I am so tempted to ask her to come here and spill, but not sure if that is the right thing to do? May it get this site in trouble? Don’t forget what has happened on Royal dish. Now that was suspicious as a new poster joined basically accusing PW of being a bully and a mean drunk. The BRF site was shut down a couple of days after the person started posting.
And I just got an email back from the Daily Mail to say “due the number of complaints” my comment has been deleted. Oh WOW! It stayed on for seconds! I can’t believe it! Absolutely cannot believe it. It still seems to be there at the moment, though. My comment read something like “please come to Enclave24 and submit your experiences, you will not be judged or red-arrowed. Don’t let anybody make you feel inferior….” and urged Sonia to keep chin up.
Miss 24, I think you need to put up an extra firewall to protect the site. The thing is, this is the only place where Sonia and others like her can come and tell us. I guess for Sonia it will also be a way to open up, I guess it must be terrible to have experiences with a famous royal that not many wants to hear, but we do. Comments like hers don’t stay online! And the masses continue to believe in the royal angels. I feel sorry for Sonia. I don’t know the person, and I don’t know the measure of truth or the situation, but I know what bullying is like and often nobody believes you. Lets see what happens. Perhaps nothing.
@Buttonhole
Copied your comment and posted it under. Already noted it was up for seconds
Someone has posted this on the DM website. I have copied it quick before they take it down
Sonia, London, 10/8/2012 12:27. Sonia, please Google Enclave24. Please, please, please visit that website, submit your experiences to the blog. You will not be judged or red-arrowed, instead you will be respected and encouraged. And remember what Eleanor Roosevelt said “No one can make you feel inferior without your consent”. Keep your chin up, don’t let them get to you- you are stronger than you think. Blessings….
- Mia, London, 10/8/2012 13:21
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p.s Update
How amazing. The comment has now been removed. Think it was on for about 2 seconds
Thanks, yup that was me under pseudonym Mia. I still can’t believe it vanished like that. And yet I have seen so many comments referencing Enclave24, so surely it can’t be that? Or someone really wants Sonia to shut it?
When I posted the Bella comment on (Which the daily fail removed as I suspected it would) one of the posters asked what the comment was. I sent them a reply directing them to this site, which I was surprised they allowed to be honest. Therefore, I can only conclude that it was not your reference to this site, but that they do not want Sonia to spill the beans. My betting is it is someone who works for Ma Widdles.
Ma not at Wimbleton as allegedly busy ‘reporting abuse’ to DM and directing her team to red or green arrow everything!!!! Must all be in a frenzy at Mid Manor and Uncle G not knowing where to turn to first!!
@Buttonhole, I was screaming at your comment – somebody needs to lure Sonia over, I am CURIOUS :-)
Alas, it stayed on for seconds, it is gone now. Don’t think Sonia will see it. Can someone else try again? Shoot….I really want to know, not just out of curiosity but there has to be an outlet for people like Sonia for their own sake as well, not merely for our entertainment. This is serious. In my heart I know Kate (and perhaps also William) is not what the masses think, that she is cold, I don’t know how to put it. I have read enough comments in the past few weeks to make be believe there is a side to her that is not pretty and which is destructive ie Bella’s comment. I am not jealous: I am successful, married, and I don’t want her life. I just for some reason feel that Kate musn’t stay where she is, she has to go. I often wish we could launch our own coup d’etat of the PR machine, and this site plays a very important role already, but then as you all see inviting someone to speak up on conventional sites like DM does not really work.
Isn’t it just ridiculous how Kate is, for a start, fake and pointless as a person, and secondly just like anybody else in England. The only thing she did was marry Prince William. So why in the hell is she hanging out with the PM of England without Prince William present? and when she’s on her own shaking peoples hands, meeting athletes at the Olympics, are they thinking who the hell is this? It’s retarded she hasn’t done anything except marry Prince William. I mean it would be different if she was truly a great, inspiring role model, but all they can write about her is bee venom masks and what she’s wearing. She isn’t even a great beauty. And she is looking old, makes me think Bee Venom masks don’t work. Or maybe she should be using the Royal Jelly eye cream. I think this is a case of herd mentality. And whoever is controlling the media is controlling the sheeple, wouldn’t be surprised if Zara, LK Bennett, Temperley, Reiss, Hudson jeans, Issa etc are paying the media to write favourable articles with plenty of pictures of Kate wearing their clothes. Kate is the perfect media puppet, she loves to be centre of attention, she also doesn’t have a mind of her own.
I tried to post a comment on the DM site in response to this ‘poster’. My comment was not allowed. The only point I was trying to make is that I am not a republican and most of the people who dislike this woman are monarchists. My comment was not even allowed.
There is a simple reason ‘republicans’ attack Catherine in every article and that is because the are scared to death of her. Lets face facts, republican numbers by the Guardians own calculations are in the mid-teens. Basically dead. They are a very vocal minority but just that , a minority. The ‘republican’ movement in this country amounts to a website and people leaving comments on the DM’s website. They have next to no representation in parliament and except for a few back bench Labour MPs their cause is dead so they attack the Duchess in the deluded idea that it will help their cause. #fail! William , Catherine and Harry have basically sunk the republicans and they know it.
- Dolly, Scotland, 10/8/2012 12:40
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Dear all
I have just realised what the daily fail is up to. Three times I have tried to post a comment stating that I am a monarchist and not a republican, but I do not like waity, and three times it has failed to make it on the board. This has never happened to me before. I usually post comments that are highly critical of waity (and have upset three of her staunchest supporters,
Pauline, Germany, the one in the Channel Islands and Pat Maughn, England). However, today the DM is refusing to publish my comment about not being a republican. Fishy????? I think the argument going on at the moment on the DM is that posters that are highly critical of waity are republicans!!! When I try and chip in to refute these claims, I am not been allowed to post on the board.
Apologies to the mail. They posted it, although it is the very very watered down version………
Dolly, Scotland, 10/8/2012 13:40……………………………..I am a monarchist, not a republican. I am also not taken in by the newest member of the RF
- Only speaking the truth, Staffordshire, UK, 10/8/2012 13:59
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What a joke. Had a fairly innocuous comment removed. Quite telling what sad lives these little people lead don’t you all think?
Following your thread about ‘Sonia’ on the DM
Did you see this one;
Dolly, Scotland, 10/8/2012 13:40 – Extremely well put. It’s easy to see their fear in the tone of their postings on here and their enclave24 gathering .. I encourage balanced people to check it out if you want a true insight- A normal human being, UK and USA, 10/8/2012 13:34 – You think Harry and this woman are just 2 harmless people surrounding the future king ? then you know nothing! prince harry is a step brother, a manipulator and a liar of the highest order, who have milked the royal family to its last drop, just take a look at his ex, she looks distressed beyond her years! who ever his future wife would be, this very disturbed young man will put some woman thru hell one day and send her to her early grave! William loves him because this is the only sibling he has, were I come from, a woman changes a man, this Kate could have changed William and even influenced her brother in law as well in a positive way, but there is more to this woman a lot more, we wait and see!
- Sonia, London, 10/8/2012 8:03
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I love how Sonia refers to Kate as ” This woman” . It reminds of how Wallis Simpson was referred to. Is Harry really a step brother ? And if so what is he manipulating and lying about ? I like Harry but I am sure there is more to him too than meets the eye. Sonia might just be posting her opinions of the RF as fact.
No I didn’t and like mine her comment didn’t last because it is not there anymore. Interesting. I don’t know what to make of it. Her comment is not very coherent, is it? Why call Harry a stepbrother? And Chelsy looks OK to me. Well at least the person highlighted enclave, so he/she/it must know about it by now.
I just came from the DM and Sonia’s comment was there, but could have vanished by now.
Calling Harry a stepbrother, did she mean halfbrother? And for Chelsy Davy to look stressed beyond her years, well, recent photos say otherwise.
I don’t know what to make of the ‘milking the family to the last drop” remark.
No offense, but Sonia sounds a bit rambling and raving in this new post. Of course it could be someone pretending to be “Sonia” to try and discredit her previous post.
This is the Daily Mail we’re talking about.
I am a bit disappointed to be honest! At first she sounded like someone really in the know, perhaps working for them. Here she sounds like a hurt teenager. She really gets people mixed up here. If she said Kate is milking the family I would believe it, but Harry? He is the family. Anything is possible.
@ Buttonhole, I agree she sounds like a hurt teenager. Maybe she dated Harry and he dumped her, so she’s striking back any way she can.
@ Lila- Who knows ? She probably meant to say half brother. I thought those rumors were debunked already. Plus besides the red hair, he really looks like Prince Charles. Sadly, he is even getting a bald spot. Chelsy looks ok to me. They haven’t been dating for how long now ? Why would she still be stressed ? Weird.
@Lila
I’m with you on this one!. I honestly don’t think this is a genuine post. It is in a totally different style to the first post that Buttonhole first drew our attention to. As you say- maybe someone is trying to discredit….
Update on this poster- Still think it’s not genuine
Catherine is becoming quite the expert at congratulating someone else for achieving something. Still it probably comes naturally to her by now.- Dave Sampson, London, UK, 10/8/2012 13:08 – Yes she married him on false presences, people’s personal lives are not a game of football that they have to win! even the biggest athletes when they enter their home they leave their athleticism behind, for them it is their home! for this woman marrying William was a dirty little game she played for many years, for this step brother as well this is all a nasty little game while he waits to inherit Diana’s millions just about time this woman divorces William and takes his millions, its a game for them, off course paddy and shaddy get on very well, you want to know the truth about Harry just look at a couple of photos of his ex, it tells a tales of years of an abusive relationship which she ended in desperation! I don’t like my anti depressants either, and I have never met this guy in person! Yep!
- Sonia, London, 10/8/2012 16:36
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2186360/Kate-Middleton-brother-law-Prince-Harry-Royal-outing-congratulate-Britains-athletes.html#ixzz239sQB0rN
Uh? She sounds nuts here.
Hi First time poster, Just love this enclave 24. Thank you Miss 24! Excellent analysis of PW and WK. I was interested in the Olympic coverage and came across the Daily Mail ..very bias…..and discovered enclave from readers comments! Anyway found the thread on Sonia interesting! Read this now:
Wills, Harry and Kate. The only royals I care about. The rest of them can take a running jump. – PB, Planet Earth, 10/8/2012 11:07 – You are so wrong I am afraid, Queen Great, Prince Charles Great, all of Queens’ own kids Great, even prince William good, it is his step brother and this woman he married, they are 2 of the vilest people and biggest down fall of British monarchy which because of these 2 wont last after prince Charles whom I like very much, these 2 have one thing in common they both want and end to monarchy, one is not real son of prince Charles and other one is in an insincere marriage, a priest predicted that marriage will end in divorce within five years and he got sacked from his job, poor guy was only telling the truth, Queen should give its people free hand and let us speak freely, what has she got to loose, she have got it all….
- Sonia, London, 10/8/2012 12:29
What is fascinating about both my and Sonia’s latest comment is how quickly they disappeared!
http://www.celebitchy.com/245269/duchess_kate_pals_around_with_prince_albert_at_the_olympics_creepy_or_cute/#comments
LOL….I love it. I saw the video yesterday of Royal Barbie giving the cheek to cheek kisses to that toad of a prince……….I think it’s the first time I’ve ever seen that.
why would anybody call harry stepbrother of william when he looks like charles and DOE. this is one of the things that i dislike about diana, she gave out so many intimate details of her life that frankly most of us did not want to know but not for once she addressed this rumor. she could have spared harry’s feeling by not telling people what charles said right after his birth and should have protected her son by clearing his paternity rumors while she was alive especially since she had no problem in talking about all sorts of in appropriate things to media but she didn’t and now he has to suffer for the rest of his life. i like her but she was not at all a good parent and crossed many lines with her children and no amount of glamour will ever change that.
as far as chelsy is concerned , she is light years ahead of do little. she has been tolerating media harassment for years in a foreign country away from her home , they called her the dumb blonde party girl even though she have double honors and now she is a lawyer , they accused her family of having ties with a war lord when in reality they actually suffered from him and yet it never stooped her from doing what she wanted to do . she completed her post graduation , started working as a lawyer while living away from her family and yet never complained about anything even though media has always been very negative about her. just because she doesn’t look like a Disney princess that does not mean she is a mess. she is far better , educated , independent, capable then kate even though she is from a very rich family and do not need to work at all. this type of comments make me sick because it shows what a shallow society we live in today where a clothes horse is worshiped for being stick thin and doing absolutely nothing but a hard working girl is ridiculed because she do not fit the idea of beauty for some people .
i think if harry marries a really beautiful woman with a world class education and a substantial career kate worshiping will end . she is not an icon , her position is. even if william would have married someone looking like snookie media would have called her the most beautiful woman on earth just because she was the next princess after diana. kate do not have any competition so she comes out good in tabloids but if harry marries someone one stunning then it will be the biggest blow to her popularity . kate is obsessed with her looks and i think her looks are the source of her confidence (i know it is shallow but we are talking about do little ). once someone good looking and more refined then her comes to the scene(i mean it should be easy as she is no stunner ) , it will drive her crazy . her fan base is solely based on her very average looks , once she loose that and media attention she will pull off fergie like stunts to attract attention and that will be her down fall. i think we will see serious competition from kate once harry’s love interest arrives imo.
Just read in the telegraph that Isabella Calthorpe has split up with Sam Branson!! Oh please Harry, keep your romance going with her sister.
i don’t think harry is going out with him because media just love to link him with any blonde withing a mile from him. she just sat next to him with a group of friends and left with some other guy but tabloids have to sell something so they just link him with every blonde he talks to. few weeks before batman premier, he was dating another sister is isabella according to tabloids and now another sister, it’s all rubbish imo.
If the Royal Family was smart, Prince Charles AND Prince William would abdicate, letting Prince Harry become King. Sure Prince Harry has had his bad publicity ie when he dressed up as a nazi at a party, and to be fair I don’t know that much about him, but what I see from him is a real ‘peoples Prince’, he truly cares about his charities and causes, he shows genuine interest when talking to people, he is approachable and just seems like a real person. He also is dating the right women, aristocrats – well educated, sophisticated etc, perhaps he is the last hope for the Royal Family. There is no way in hell anybody (in UK and Commonwealth) would tolerate Camilla or Kate as a Queen – it would be the biggest joke, may as well crown the corgis.
anyone saw her new pictures today watching hockey? …. so fake
Pic 7 is priceless – she’s so nervous she’s hiding behind her hair?! How old is she again and who is she putting up these poses for?!
Also, call me a prude, but she’s a half inch away from a wardrobe malfunction, button up your shirt, woman!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2186593/Duchess-Cambridge-Kate-Middleton-jumps-joy-Team-GB-beat-New-Zealand-hockey-bronze.html
my 8 year old niece have the same mannerism as duchess do little.
I just came from the new “hockey watching” story and the short time I was there flipping back and forth between newest and oldest comments, at least 10 comments have disappeared! Already!
Where are they going with this farce? To describe this as ridiculous isn’t even accurate, I would say pathetic would be a better adjective.
It reminds me of something someone posted at the DM a while back in regard to comments “disappearing.”
“If Kate needs this much help to SEEM popular, she’s done for.
I couldn’t agree more.
One of my favorite comments from DM:
Hmmmm, I had doubts about the rumours but, her forehead hasn’t moved in weeks.
- josephine, ….., 10/8/2012 12:48
I wonder if she is hamming up for the cameras and making those ridiculous faces precisely because she actually can’t express herself from above her brows?
@Katteroo
Very possible.
I also think it’s possible Kate is performing for the cameras. Carrying on, so the cameras will be drawn to her instead of focusing on the athletes.
There are numerouse photos of Kate with exaggerated expressions and gestures, while the other people around her are just quietly sitting there.
It makes you wonder what is Kate looking at to provoke this reaction, when everyone else is just staring straight ahead.
During a medal ceremony when Kate realized she was on camera, she stopped singing God Save the Queen and started grinning at the camera.
Says it all, really.
Hi Miss 24,
I have a question for you specifically that I do not want a specific answer rather just something of concern. However, reading, the last several posts about the DM and this person Sonia, (I read her “comments” on the DM) and as some one who was military for over 20 years, I can’t help but be concerned about you and your blog. Trolls are now the new trojan horses and honestly this Sonia person is suspicious, the voices are different, she sounds coherent one minute and off her rocker the next. The DM is getting more and more vicious in its suppression of peoples ability to air their grievances (in my world its called freedom of speech). So the question is, do you have anything set up to protect yourself and also this blog. I do not want to come off as a conspiracy theorist or as a paranoid American, but even though I have never met you or the commenters, I feel very protective of all of you, and unfortunately we live in a world where abuse of power by a few means that so many of those who believe they wield it can do whatever they want, bully, intimidate, pervert legal avenues. In America for sure and I started noticing this even when I was in England, if you do not support someone’s belief then you are basically their enemy. Never did I think that one vacous, vain, empty shell of a human being could create such bitter remarks, and this from those who cannot stand to hear anything other than glowing reports. If you try to criticize you are stomped on as delusional or worse. A few days ago, I read that google had to pay a big fine because they were spying on peoples uses of their search engine, if they are willing to do this what is a newspaper like the DM or New York Times, etc willing to do. Just a thought, blogs can be rebooted but I just feel a strange nastiness coming on and I can’t put my finger on exactly what IT is. Sincerely, A Peasant not Wandering the World With Rose Colored Glasses